Saint Severus

Wednesday, 29 August 2007 05:08 pm
sigune: (Eileen Prince)
[personal profile] sigune
Whenever I am busy with something really important in RL, I get ideas for fanfic. Yay. If the bad news is that I really can't afford to sit down and write fic at this moment, the good news is that the WIP of Doom - Post DH Remix is making more sense every day and pieces of the puzzle are slowly falling in their right place.

One of the things I am trying to do is to paint a picture of the Snape family that does not contradict canon but nevertheless rejects 'wife-and-child-beating Tobias' and 'victimised Eileen'. I am glad to say that this is finally beginning to work. Without going into detail, one thing I needed was an explanation of little Severus's first name. It's an odd name for a British boy (I wonder whether there are any real little Severuses in Britain, actually), so my first thought was that it must be a wizard name that Eileen had chosen. Only - now that I am re-imagining the Snape family, it really doesn't suit me at all that Eileen should give her child a name from the wizarding world, so I had to look for an alternative explanation.

I found one :-).

Those of you who are familiar with my fics know that I have consistently imagined Severus Snape as a Catholic. Well, there are several Catholic saints called Severus; and it is not uncommon (or usen't to be until society secularised so much) to call a child after a saint. Because I like to pad my stories and characters, I don't assign names completely at random - if possible, I like them to say something about a character. In this case, Severus has been named already; but I still wanted to check up on the saints Severus to see if I could find anything of use in terms of symbols and such. What I found is so very striking that I wonder if JKR knows XD.

There is a Saint Severus of Avranches, who is invoked against migraine XD (that's good to know!); Saint Severus of Barcelona, martyred under the Visigoths who drove nails into his temples; Saint Severus of Trèves, a Gaul who became a bishop in Germania; Saint Severus of Androcca, who raised a dead man to life in order to be able to administer him the last rites. There is a Saint Severus church in Erfurt (Thüringen, Germany). But the best one is...


Severus of Ravenna

He is celebrated not on the ninth of January, but on the first of February, so there is something amiss, you could say. But read his story!

Died c. 348. Severus was a poor weaver of Ravenna, Italy, who never dreamed that God would one day call him from his weaver's loom to rule a diocese, but God has strange ways of calling His servants and sometimes lays His hand upon them in the least likely places: from the plough and the bench have come some of the greatest of His apostles.

So it happened that when the bishopric of Ravenna fell vacant in 283 and the cathedral was filled with those who had gathered to elect a new bishop, Severus said to his wife, Vincentia, that he would visit the minister and see what was going on. She replied that he had much better remain at home and not show himself in his working clothes among the nobles and well-dressed citizens. "What harm is there in my going?" he asked. "Why, you have work to do here," she answered, "instead of gadding about sightseeing." When he persisted, she said, "Go, and may you come back with a good box on your ear," and added sarcastically: "Go, then, and get elected bishop."

Severus, accustomed to her sharp tongue, set out and, entering the crowded cathedral, stood at the back, ashamed of his working clothes covered with flocks of wool. When, in the course of the service, the power of the Holy Spirit was invoked in prayer, there appeared in the cathedral a white dove that attracted the attention of the assembly, and which after flying around fluttered at the ear of the poor spinner. He beat it off, but it returned and finally came to rest upon his shoulder. Every eye was now turned in his direction, and the people, regarding it as a heavenly sign, with one accord chose him to be their bishop.

Vincentia was still at home, and when a neighbor came running, breathless, to her door with the news, she laughed and would not believe it. "What a tale," she said, "that a man who tosses a shuttle should be made a prelate!" But when another came with the same story, and yet another, and a crowd gathered at her door, and she found it was true, she was speechless.

Thus, it came to pass that Severus the weaver became bishop of Ravenna and who can doubt that he was a good weaver, well respected for his work and character, and that he was chosen not only because of a good omen but also for his own fine qualities. For these he was chosen to accompany the papal legate to the synod of Sardica in 344.

He made a good bishop, and when at last he came to die, he said his last Mass before all the people, then quietly dismissed them with his blessing. When all had departed save a single boy who served at the altar, he bade the boy close the doors, and clothing himself in his episcopal robes, went to the tomb of his wife and daughter, who had died before him. There with the help of the boy he raised the stone, and descending into the grave, laid himself down, and after a prayer closed his eyes and fell asleep. After his death he was canonized a saint, and is usually portrayed in his bishop's robes and with a weaver's shuttle (Benedictines, Gill).

It may be that the dove was a common phenomenon, or that it was simply a pious addition to the story of unlikely bishops, but it occurs in several stories.

In art, Severus is a bishop weaving. He may have a loom and weaver's tools and, possibly, a dove on his shoulder. He is the patron of glove makers, hatters, and weavers.


***

So, yay. Not sure how I'm going to integrate the dove, but... ;-)

Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tanyad.livejournal.com
That's pretty awesome.

St. Severus :)

You have made my morning with this.

Date: Thursday, 30 August 2007 01:42 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (Luna)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
Glad to be of service :-).

Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sylvanawood.livejournal.com
So his real Patronus is the white dove, not doe?
(nooo, don't hurt me, nooo... runs and screams).

Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_vocalion_/
Take the V out of dove and what do you have? :-D

Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sylvanawood.livejournal.com
That's why she hurts me and I'm running. Ouuuuch... nooooo....

Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_vocalion_/
Ah, now I see.

*vocalion bends over to receive virtual prongs in her behind*

Date: Thursday, 30 August 2007 01:44 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (i heart snape)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
Nah, I don't allow any creatures with prongs on my LJ page. We wouldn't want Severus to emigrate, would we? So you can just sit down at your ease and have some pineapple :-).

Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redvelvetcanopy.livejournal.com
Yes, but a white doe sitting on your shoulder would be far more uncomfortable than a dove.

Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 09:27 pm (UTC)
arethinn: glowing green spiral (Default)
From: [personal profile] arethinn
And God forbid it should relieve itself whilst there!

Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/phistolemon_/
wow. you've found out quite a lot there.
I'm surprised there's a st. severus church here in germany LOL

oh and perhaps this might help, too:
some time ago I looked up the name tobias and it's supposed to mean god is good. well, I'm still more on the 'tobias was mean to severus and eileen' - side and I thought that the name could mean that tobias was religious, a catholic even. this could explain why he disliked magic (christians weren't really nice to 'witches', as we know) and hence disliked the fact that severus and eileen could use magic.

now.. you brought this 'severus is a catholic'/saint search up and I thought you could use this info about tobias' name to your advantange :)

Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 05:18 pm (UTC)
ext_76688: (Default)
From: [identity profile] septentrion1970.livejournal.com
I'm still gaping at my computer. Saint Severus? I bet Jo knew. When she said Rita Skeeter could write Severus's biography with the title "Snape, scoundrel or saint?", she must have had that in mind.

Date: Thursday, 30 August 2007 01:45 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (Dungeon King)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
I forgot about that... It's possible :D!

Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zefla.livejournal.com
I'm mainly amused that St Severus' day is on my birthday. what are the chances of that?

Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 09:28 pm (UTC)
arethinn: glowing green spiral (snape (b/w))
From: [personal profile] arethinn
I estimate 1/365. ;)

Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayleelupin.livejournal.com
*I* estimate 1/365 1/4. You forgot to account for leap years ;)

~Kaylee!

Date: Thursday, 30 August 2007 01:46 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (Magic)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
LOL! Lucky you :-).

Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redvelvetcanopy.livejournal.com
Wow! What a tremendous discovery! Humble beginnings, a bit of shame at being perceived as less than the others, a little boy there when he dies...what more could you want!

Date: Thursday, 30 August 2007 01:47 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (Young Severus)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
Isn't it amazing? XD

Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 07:29 pm (UTC)
torino10154: Cropped Hufflepuff crest (abandoned boys)
From: [personal profile] torino10154
St. Severus of Ravenna is my favorite too! I even considered a trip there (well, and Dante and the mosaics are nice). I searched and searched for info about his tomb. Finally I found a link in Italian that said his bones had been taken (stolen?) and are now found in . . . Erfurt! And that church the Severikirche shares the square with the Mariendom (no doubt about who the mother of the savior is in HP). Neighbors yet again. LOL

For anyone interested in Tobias, check out links about the Book of Tobias or Tobit. A very condensed summary-the archangel Raphael comes to Tobit disguised and teaches him antidotes and how to perform an exorcism. I actually think it's very HBP and Harry, to be honest.

Date: Thursday, 30 August 2007 01:50 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (Eileen Prince)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
Ha! I had been wondering which of the Severuses it was for whom they built that church in Erfurt; the sites I found didn't mention it. So it would be the "right" one? Yay! :D And then the Mariendom - oh dear :P.

Interesting, what you say about Tobit. Must check it out. Thanks!

Date: Thursday, 30 August 2007 02:30 pm (UTC)
torino10154: Cropped Hufflepuff crest (abandoned boys)
From: [personal profile] torino10154
About the churches-what I read was that it is extremely unusual for there to be two like that, sharing the square. I also read that Basil Valentine the alchemist worked in Erfurt for a time, and certainly HP drips with alchemy so I wonder if JKR found this that way.

http://www.trem.altervista.org/index/index.php?mod=none_Il_Santo_Patrono Here is one link that has a close up of his tomb in Erfurt. If you'd like I can see what I can did up in Italian-make my husband translate LOL. My email is principemezzosangue1971@yahoo.com if you want to compare notes. This is something I enjoy tremendously.

The stories with Tobias and Sarah are the ones that stood out to me. Sarah means princess, so that makes a lot of sense. But Raphael is the healing angel and that where I sort of twist the story and see how Snape incognito as the Prince actually taught Harry quite a bit via the Potions book. I got a lot of the information from this link but of course there are others.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14749c.htm

I have actually been to San Severo in Southern Italy, although not since I was such a huge HP fan. The next time I get off the train there I am certain to be enjoying it a little more than I ought to.

Date: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ook.livejournal.com
Wow! What a fantastic and touching story! I love how St. Severus accepts his inevitable death with dignity.

The idea of Snape being a Catholic is a wonderful idea. It fits very nicely with his life of penitence and desire to make up for his past sins. I'm not well-versed in religion in the UK, but how would a Catholic be treated by the other students at Hogwarts?

Date: Thursday, 30 August 2007 01:57 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (i heart snape)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
I have no idea... Canon never really mentions anything about religion among wizards, and we never hear the students say anything about it. The only thing I know about Catholicism in Britain is that after Anglicanism had been established, Catholics were not favourably looked upon - they were fiercely prosecuted at one time, not given civil rights at others, and even in the late 19th century there was some antipathy towards them, and suspicion that they were hatching plots to sell the Anglicans to Rome. As far as I know (but of course I'm not British), such feelings have died down now and Catholics aren't treated in any other way than Anglicans.

What I like about Catholicism, especially for Snape, is confession. He can get all his past misdeeds of his chest and start anew, provided that he shows remorse *g*.

Date: Thursday, 30 August 2007 12:31 am (UTC)
todayiamadaisy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] todayiamadaisy
Wow. And how appropriate that he was a weaver, both in the suggestion of Spinner's End being part of a northern mill town and in the sense that Snape himself was also quite a good weaver of tangled webs. :-)

On an unrelated namesake, my mother actually visited the Yorkshire village of Snape and forgot to take photos of any signs to prove it. Silly woman. :-)

Date: Thursday, 30 August 2007 02:04 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (Eileen Prince)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
Augh! XD
I would have loved to see the pictures :-).

Hee. I was really happy to find this, because it gives Eileen's choice of a name a positive ring. "Severus" sounds so ... severe for a little boy. But when you look at the story of Saint Severus, it actually has something of a good luck charm, carrying the hope that he will escape his humble beginnings and rise to be someone revered and respected. I like that :-).

Date: Friday, 31 August 2007 03:58 pm (UTC)
todayiamadaisy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] todayiamadaisy
Snape looks like a nice place, actually. You can see two photos here, if you like: the ruins of Snape Castle and the inn in Snape in which my mother stayed. Some sort of signage would have been nice, though. :-)

Date: Thursday, 30 August 2007 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sscrewdriver.livejournal.com
When he persisted, she said, "Go, and may you come back with a good box on your ear,"

My favourite bit.

Date: Thursday, 30 August 2007 02:05 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (Dungeon King)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
*g*
I knew you would :P.

Actually, for Saint Severus to be really like our Severus, he should have said something like that ;-).

Date: Friday, 31 August 2007 01:52 am (UTC)

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