Tutorial?

Wednesday, 24 January 2007 03:25 pm
sigune: (Jeanne Kefer)
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[livejournal.com profile] pennswoods left me a comment at Artistic Alley in which she suggested that I write an art tutorial sometime. Now, I'm not sure I should be tutoring anyone about anything art-related, seeing as my methods aren't really based on any expert knowledge or skill; but if some of you think I could be of any help somehow, I could give the idea some thought. Hence, a poll! ;)

[Poll #913093]

Date: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] severity-softly.livejournal.com
My answer for the second question wouldn't fit. :) I really have no clue and I'm not overly picky on what it's about. I just really enjoy looking at art tutorials in general. Hmm, maybe facial expressions? ...or eyebrows! ^_~

Date: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pennswoods.livejournal.com
Let me also add your use of wash and such-not. I'm really a complete novice at everything and it takes me so long to figure stuff out that I really appreciate learning the tips and tricks of others.

Date: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] florence-craye.livejournal.com
Oooh, this is a good one. Washes and delicate colorings are always good tutorials.

I'd basically like to see anything you do, so I'd be happy with any of the topics suggested.

Date: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 03:49 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (Jeanne Kefer)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
*g*

I will have to think about pedagogical issues here... I mean - I never analyse how I go about drawing facial expressions XD!

Hm. Could be an interesting experience all round... :)

Date: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 03:56 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (Jeanne Kefer)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
Mmm, yes, I feel the same. I'll see if I can think of a way to share some things, but it's really - I haven't got a system or anything; I just try things and am surprised when they work :D. And they don't always *g*.

Am I mistaken here, or have you bought some "how to" art books recently? What is your experience with them?

Date: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 03:59 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (Jeanne Kefer)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
So far, everybody is suggesting different ones, naturally ;). I guess I'll have to see whether I find a good approach to 'tutoring' this kind of stuff in the first place...

I'll give it some thought :).

Date: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veradee.livejournal.com
I've never been such a good painter anyway, but my main problem always is that I never know how to fix on paper what I imagine in my head. I once bought a book on how to draw, and I actually understood some of the theory, like drawing / colouring in layers so that some areas appear darker than others. But of course they assume that you managed to draw a reasonable outline for a drawing in the first place.

Date: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 04:18 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (Jeanne Kefer)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
I have to confess that I sometimes wonder whether 'real' artists do manage to reproduce the picture as they saw it in their head, because I know I hardly ever do. If I'm lucky, I end up with something else that looks okay - but it's rarely the thing that I imagined it would be.

I feel ambiguous about "how to" books. I keep buying them because I feel the need to know how things work, but in the end I tend stubbornly to go my own way. That probably shows ;).

Date: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sylvanawood.livejournal.com
I didn't vote in the poll, because I likely never will try out what you tutor, so a tutorial for me would be intersting to look at, but not necessary something that helped me.

But I so enjoy your ongoing comic process description. So, if you don't know what to tutor about, just a 'progress report' of how you do this or that piece of art, with troubles, tribulations and triumphes would be what I'd love to see. :D

Date: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/phistolemon_/
voted for yes, but I had too many ideas on a tutorial to write it all down in the box xD so am doing that here:

• I'd love to see the entire way how a picture of yours gets on paper. :)
from your first idea, to thinking of the right posers, how you start, with which pencils, where you start (head/hair/eyes?), how you come up with the closes and expressions. do you look it somewhere up? or does it come to mind just like that? until it's done (yes, that's a lot of work for you to make a tut with pics and all LOL)

• you know I always thought it was hard to draw with the black pencils like you do ;) leaving out the white lines and all.. would like to see how you do that :)

• general things! how to draw clothes, hair etc!

• a tut on 'howtodrawsnapeyourway' :DD

that's it!

Date: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 05:52 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (Jeanne Kefer)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
Oh, is that all? ;D

I've never done this kind of thing before, and usually when I'm done with a picture I haven't got any proof of all the different stages left. It will be strange to take pictures and/or make scans after each bit... The worst is that as long as a picture isn't ready, I don't know whether it's going to be good in the end, so I may end up with a tutorial that has a lousy picture as a result! *g*

Anyway - I'll see what I can do :).

Date: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/phistolemon_/
haha, I know! I'm just curious xD
just wanted to throw in some ideas (and I so forgot the water colours 8D;)
- whatever you'll do, I'll be happy seeing it :)

Date: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 05:58 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (Jeanne Kefer)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
Hee! That's one of the reasons why I thought I'd ask whether there is any interest first: I have all these books on how to do stuff, but I never do a single thing they say! It seems a bit strange to start giving instruction when I know I never follow instructions myself :D...

From time to time I consider posting about all the stages of a drawing, but I'm always afraid of boring people to death. Plus, they'd see just how amateurish my method is XD. But, well, in a way, if more people would confess just how much of a mess they make before something ends up looking reasonably good, maybe their fellow artists wouldn't feel so frustrated about their own trials and tribulations :).

Date: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pennswoods.livejournal.com
Yes I did indeed. I bought a book of faces for reference since I find it a totally bitch and a half to find some of what I want on the Internet. I also bought a book on drawing light and shade because I really want to find a way to add more depth to my pictures. I'm kind of lazy and inconsistant with this, however, I think the light and shade influenced my most recent canon drawing, particularly with respect to how I colored or shadowed Snape's face.

Date: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veradee.livejournal.com
The last time I drew a picture, the book actually helped a bit, because before I didn't know that it is common to create smaller white areas with an eraser. I always assumed one would leave the areas white in the first place.

Date: Thursday, 22 February 2007 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inevitably-grey.livejournal.com
I'd be interested in learning the play between shadow and light, how to make it realistic, how to give the picture another dimension. While I get the shadowing right, nuance-wise, I always tend to either make too much or too little shadow, making it look oddly unrealistic. The play between nuances of colours could be interesting too.

Date: Thursday, 22 February 2007 02:06 pm (UTC)
ext_53318: (Jeanne Kefer)
From: [identity profile] sigune.livejournal.com
Heh heh - nice try, James, but it so happens that I'm no good at that sort of thing, so I am the last person who should be called upon to explain the stuff to others! XD

Mind you, you are not the only one who has been asking me to explain things that I can't do myself... Funny flisties!

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